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I am writing to urge residents affected by jet noise from new flight patterns at LaGuardia and John F. Kennedy International airports to seek property-tax exemptions from New York City to compensate for reduced property values.

You should contact your local elected representatives to demand an exemption if your property is affected.

The city is the landlord for the airports and has leases under which it takes in more money as airport traffic increases. In 2013, it took in $128 million in rent — $98 million from JFK and almost $30 million from LaGuardia.

Meanwhile, the city is raising property taxes on residential properties without regard to declines in value.

Real Estate Appraisal, a professional journal, estimates residential property values decline 15 percent to 30 percent when residential properties are suddenly affected by new jet noise. The website Property Shark reports that property values in Fort Hamilton, Brooklyn, declined 19 percent in the last year.

As a former resident of the Fort Hamilton area, I believe the explanation is new noise from jets headed to LaGuardia. I now live in Bayside and know of a number of properties on the market that have not sold because of new noise from LaGuardia traffic.

The city is responsible for how its land is used. It is making money from the decline in residential property values. If you are an owner, you are affected because your resale value is lower. If you rent, your landlord will pass tax increases on to you.

Contact your City Council members, state representatives and others to seek compensation for your damage.

Peter Rutledge

Bayside

Posted 12:00 am, May 14, 2014
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no way from queens says:
There was an airport when these people bought their houses. Did they think only stealth planes would land and take off from it. Let the buyer beware, they deserve no tax breaks.
May 14, 2014, 8:51 am
Brian W. from East Flushing says:
Sorry "no way", but you happen to be dead wrong.

People all over Queens bought homes under existing conditions that were perfectly livable. Places like Bay Terrace were highly developed as a result of those conditions. Very few people living in that section would have moved there under the current airspace conditions, which are dramatically different.

The airports were built on the water for a reason. They utilized noise mitigation routes until very recently, when almost all departures were re-routed overland. It's called "airspace redesign", and has made formerly thriving areas - in Queens and elsewhere - uninhabitable.

People didn't just wake up one day and decide to start complaining. The existing conditions that people enjoyed for decades changed drastically in 2012. Kids can't do homework, teachers can't teach and some folks are leaving.

Airports may have been there beforehand but the new low altitude, closely space routes were not there. And no one could have reasonably expected things to change as dramatically as they have.

Also, my family predates the airport and we are 5 generations in Queens. There are actually quite a few multi-generational New Yorkers left, most of whom predate this nightmare of an airport. We live the same distance fro the LGA intersection as the United Nations building.

And we aren't beholden to LaGuardia for our economic prosperity either. Main Street in Flushing is the last functioning and thriving Main Street in the entire US. The immigrant and ethnic businesses that populate Main Street are not directly dependent on an airport that serves 25% private charters for wealthy Manhattanites. Not even close.

This isn't 1939. This is real pollution with real health consequences. We aren't stopping or going away. We will continue to fight this. We'll making a bit of noise ourselves.

If you don't like it, move out.
May 14, 2014, 10:11 am
Brian W. from East Flushing says:
Sorry "no way", but you happen to be dead wrong.

People all over Queens bought homes under existing conditions that were perfectly livable. Places like Bay Terrace were highly developed as a result of those conditions. Very few people living in that section would have moved there under the current airspace conditions, which are dramatically different.

The airports were built on the water for a reason. They utilized noise mitigation routes until very recently, when almost all departures were re-routed overland. It's called "airspace redesign", and has made formerly thriving areas - in Queens and elsewhere - uninhabitable.

People didn't just wake up one day and decide to start complaining. The existing conditions that people enjoyed for decades changed drastically in 2012. Kids can't do homework, teachers can't teach and some folks are leaving.

Airports may have been there beforehand but the new low altitude, closely space routes were not there. And no one could have reasonably expected things to change as dramatically as they have.

Also, my family predates the airport and we are 5 generations in Queens. There are actually quite a few multi-generational New Yorkers left, most of whom predate this nightmare of an airport. We live the same distance fro the LGA intersection as the United Nations building.

And we aren't beholden to LaGuardia for our economic prosperity either. Main Street in Flushing is the last functioning and thriving Main Street in the entire US. The immigrant and ethnic businesses that populate Main Street are not directly dependent on an airport that serves 25% private charters for wealthy Manhattanites. Not even close.

This isn't 1939. This is real pollution with real health consequences. We aren't stopping or going away. We will continue to fight this. We'll making a bit of noise ourselves.

If you don't like it, move out.
May 14, 2014, 10:11 am
Adrastos from Bath Beach says:
I am sick of people always saying, "then don't move near an airport". Well for "no ways" information, I live clear across Brooklyn, near the Verazzano Bridge. My neighborhood is Bath Beach and I have been living in the same apartment since 1990. There was NO air traffic what so ever, nothing. I hardly ever seen a plane in the air, let alone hear one.

But now since 2012 when the infamous "NextGen" was implemented, I now have to hear and see airplanes flying over my once beautiful peaceful neighborhood, every 30 seconds all day every day at very low altitudes. They are frightening to see. ( 9/11) ring a bell?

This is simply not fair. The FAA should never have of re designed the airspace without public knowledge or input. It seemed that one day, there was a plane that flew over my neighborhood at a very low altitude, OK, that was fine, but then 30 seconds there was another, and so on. Now it is 2 years later, and still going on strong. This is not right or fair. I also know LGA changed runways once and a while, that could better, but it seems they use runway 4 the most which is the worst, and runway 13 the least which would be the best for us......They need to rotate runways more, and they can, I'm sure.

There was never any air traffic over our neighborhood, and the same with a lot of Long Island & Queens neighborhoods as well. JFK located on the water, there should never be planes flying from the water, over LI only to turn and land, thus flying over many neighborhoods, when the plane can simply come from off the water and land, thus NOT having to go over any of our land.

Who re designed these air spaces?, a blind and deaf man? No human consequences were incorporated into this new design at all. It seems just to get in as many flights as they can. Now all of the taxpayers have to suffer. We can't even move, there are no neighborhoods that aren't effected by this re-design. NONE! From Bay Ridge, Bath Beach, Bensonhurst, Dyker Hts, Park Slope Sunset Park and so on, all the way to LGA, everyone is effected. Everyone is disturbed and invaded.

This is unacceptable! Our elected officials have done nothing for us in the last 2 years, we need to vote Schummer and Gillibrand out on their behind as soon as we can.
May 14, 2014, 11:20 am
Air space from Queens says:
So it appears that all of the above who live within 15 miles of an airport never thought they would hear planes overhead. They thought that the flight patterns from 1965 would never change. Who was their realtor Pollyanna?
May 14, 2014, 3:03 pm
Woe Is Joe from Auburndale says:
The stooges for the "airport advocacy" lobby better hope their billionaire boss doesn't figure out you galvanize local opposition to airport expansion. Thanks to you, the tide has turned against airport expansion. Keep up the good work!

Woe Is Joe!
May 14, 2014, 4:28 pm
NH from Bayside says:
So tired of people and their uninformed opinions about air plane noise and the tireless efforts of people trying to hold their own government accountable to them. When did it become the new normal for government agencies to do what they please regardless of the consequences?

It seems everyone has a damn opinion nowadays. Having no idea of what is really going on, not only here but many other parts of the country, people love to have an opinion and disregard all others.

This situation among other serious ones just reinforces my personal belief that we are surrounded by a citizenry of extreme apathy.

Of course, people still have to have their ill-informed and inconsiderate opinions. Of course..
May 14, 2014, 5:16 pm
LennyM from Bayside says:
Bayside, Auburndale, Little Neck Douglaston homeowners, it's time to get real. The real estate brokers already know what we are reluctant to face. The value of your home is in decline. No one wants to live under a noisy takeoff path where planes fly overhead at such low altitudes. This is what we face if we don't demand a solution from our Federal politicians: Meng, Israel, Gilibrand and Schumer. Join Queens Quiet Skies.
May 16, 2014, 8:32 am
where then from queens says:
So they will not fly over the more affluent nabes. Then where will they go. Everyone is NIMBY.
May 16, 2014, 8:36 am
LennyM from Bayside says:
To: where then from queens, That's why the airports are located near the water. That's where the take-off routes should be. Also, roll back Nextgen. We shouldn't have that many additional flights from so close in. Perhaps flights over 1000 miles should no longer originate at LaGuardia, but only at JFK or Newark. Over time our local quality of life should improve, not deteriorate.
May 16, 2014, 9:53 am
Woe is Joe from Auburndale says:
So the "airport advocates" (read: real estate interests) are upset that Congress is not funding their projects - WaaWaa - Suck It Up, boys - No More Free Rides. LMFAO!!! WaaWaa! (Get the message?)
May 16, 2014, 6:25 pm
NH from Bayside says:
For a new system that is supposed to allow the airports to have more control over flight paths, they sure are adamant about not being able to make changes to current flight paths. Why even do environmental testing? Oh that's right! No testing was ever done.

Why fly over huge swaths of non-residential areas (including a big body of water) close to the airport when you can fly over peoples homes instead? It makes a lot of sense to me.....really. I've lived here all my life and would like to raise a family here, but that is now in question. I feel as though I am slowly, but surely, being pushed out of my home.

We shouldn't question our government agencies ever because as we all know, they have been doing such a great job for so long. Sarcasm included.

If you haven't noticed, an increasing number of government agencies, such as the FAA, are being staffed with people that have extensive experience lobbying for corporations and various other special interests. It is harder and harder to distinguish government from big business.

If it weren't so sad, all these ill-informed citizens and their opinions would be amusing.
May 17, 2014, 10:42 am
bensonhurstbean from bensonhurst says:
It is terrible that to land at LGA the planes have fly completely over Brooklyn at 2600 feet. No, it isn't fair or right to do this, we have nothing but water around us, this is where the plane need to fly, instead of flying over our homes.

No the skies should not have been redesigned without the public being aware of it. people spend a lot of money on their homes and pick quiet neighborhoods to live in for reasons. NOT to have the sky then redesigned and have a parade of low flying planes fly over ones home every 30 seconds all day every day for the rest of your life.

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS and needs to be addresses, now!!

I see plance fly off the water headed to land at JFK, yet instead of landing right from the water, they make a U turn completely over Long Island, over peoples homes and backyards creating a loud roar as they pass by. When the airport is on the water and can be accessed from the water, NOT over the land.

We have a bunch of morons that are working as our elected officials that have done diddly squat regarding this matter. We need to boot Schummer and Gillibrand right out on thier asses once and for all.
May 29, 2014, 10:50 am
Flushing,Parsons%Beech from Flushing says:
No way is an assh**le.
Damn roaring airplanes every 10 seconds hundreds of times a day at 15 second durations, is a nightmare.
The whole house shakes, the roof shakes. I want a tax exemption for all the damage to my house and the declining property values. Who the hell wants to live like airplanes are landing in their driveway??? Sounds like sorties are taking place in Pearl Harbor! WTF is the FAA doing, is there any people with any sense in that agency?
This is what is wrong with the Federal Govt. They can't solve ——! And they can't make a right decision without being forced to make that decision by citizens with sense. People should get fired over this. At minimum, we deserve the tax break.
Oct. 21, 2014, 7:24 pm

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